[Enter]

i personally feel that ESW dmg should be lowered since k wep dmg is nerfed that much.. what do u guys think ..?

[aikawa]

HA... IS NOT ESW DMG HIGH... IS RES wand with 10k rep dmg is high... Hahaha...
Res.wand should be banned? ha? or just go for amp warr >< thats wad i think

[74]

I think polls like these are pointless. The warriors will vote yes and the mages will vote no. I also think it's too fast to draw conclusions like those like 15 minutes after the update was out. Heck, mages have been hit by 1000++ for weeks and people (not you) are complaining about the kloness damage after a few minutes.

[kinger]

i can think of many stats that own a mage and not a warrior.

ress wands are shit. (working on it)

etc

[aikawa]

amped warr could own mage.. thats the only way out.. haha... If 1 on 1, you were to use dusa sword, they use shield, xelima they invis, ha... the only way is amp to win. wahahaha...however, mage w/o pa is not a problem and its easy. but pa mage is hard... yea~GOGOGO

[ababababab]

I think solution here is put rep bottles at 50% of chances to get droped of actual % ... and make a max rep of 5k....

each time u kill someone rep should decreasse 200points and /rep+ should gives u 15 rep points & /rep- should takes u 15 rep points...

i hope u understand my lame english <3

[Eternal]

lol mages would want a low rep cuz they can pwn with running and shield. No matter if the rep is 10k or 1k, the Physical Absorption will take over. I have a Kloness Axe at 10k rep and the damage I do to mages are 200 ..... think about that before you say 5k rep is enough. If you want the rep low, nerf PA and MA....

If not find a different server, if the rep is lowered its not fun, PA on mages makes them over power also the shield.....Lots of people speed hack, the excuses is "better FPS" lol bs show me the fps with a ss.

[Enter]

when warr crit a mage , usually mage would run off getting himself shield. so if ur amp warr after sometimes of running ur amp will go off.
that's when the mage have chance to cast spell on you which kinda hurts ( mass blizz / ESW )
Dont forget most mage in this server do have pa set.

Eternal wrote : I have a Kloness Axe at 10k rep and the damage I do to mages are 200

thats true too .. i can even hit 100+ on some mage too

[Eternal]

yea this is bs it should be at least 15k rep cap cuz of pa. MAges now on the server are over power, look in the rankings its all mages cuz shield and cast

[Dragonis]

yeah if kloness wpns got nerfed then ESW should be too

[Shilian]

Yes I think ESW damage should be lowered a little bit, also if K weapons are being lowered. It really makes alot alot of damage.

[74]

There are too many warriors posting in this thread. If you think ESW should be nerfed, then you clearly haven't played a mage. I will now post some screenshots of some hits I took through my pa140 set. Hopefully someone will realize that warriors are not the only one taking mass damage. When warriors have MA, esw doesn't hit so high, but my PA doesn't work too well.




GBH hitting -945 on PA set.



GBH hitting -1080 on PA set.



Kloness Axe hitting -1313



Kloness Axe hitting -1431



Kloness Esterk hitting 600+ (been hit higher by them). Little high for an esterk, don't you think? Also considering that they almost have the same crit range as a bow.



Dark Executor hitting HARD!


So, why am I posting this? To let the warriors who think ESW hurts so much know that they are not the only one taking massive damage. Warriors still have pfm and MA is cheaper than PA even though it works better. Look at the crazy damages I take on the screenshots above. All the hits were taken on a PA140% set. Imagine how a mage with blacksmith armor would feel. I don't think any warrior has the right to complain but I know why they do it anyways. Of course most of them want to ease their own situation cause they don't care how hard it is to play mages.

I have a good example too (no screenshot though). I was on my deva warrior in Elvine standing a few steps outside safe zone when a kaxe warrior runs out of safe and crits me TWO times and I died. 2300 HP gone in TWO criticals. Now THAT is insane!

[testt]

Something should be done to the unlimited critical hit spam.

[Eternal]

Originally Posted by testt

Something should be done to the unlimited critical hit spam.

lol if crits get nerfed this will be infested by mages think before you post man......

[Shilian]

Yes, the crits, I think, are absolutely necesary for keeping the balance between mages and wars. Normally (in pvp servers) you get them for free. Here you have to pay or waste time getting them.

[Dragonis]

looking at 74's post I kinda change my mind slightly, I think the damages that K wpns can do, should basically match the amount that ESW with a rez wand can do. They should both be almost equal basically

[74]

Originally Posted by 74

People are like "OMG, ESW can do -1500 in ONE hit!! SO unbalanced!". NO! What people don't realize (probably because they are warriors themselves) is that mages rarely get to do a direct ESW in a fight. If they do, it's the warriors fault cause he/she can just run out of the line or dodge the ESW.

Warriors can crit -1000-1400 very often with KB or kaxe and people think that's fair cause ESW can hit 1500 with zerk wand. But hey, it's not! Because it takes longer to cast two ESW's and mages have to run to be able to cast ESW. That gives the warrior extra time to chug pots or just run the other way. It is so much easier for a warrior to get away from a mage than it is for a mage to get away from a warrior. As I said, they can just run the other way and cast invisibility or recall. If mages get crit two times with kaxe, they are dead in 1-1.5 seconds. That leaves the mage with absolutely NO chance to chug/invis/anything. But hey, that's fair cause ESW does more damage if the warrior is standing still with no pfm/ma - cause that happens sooooo often!

I quoted this from a post I made a few weeks ago because I think it suits this topic well. What I was trying to say back then was that you cannot compare ESW damage to warrior damages without keeping in mind that warriors crit faster than mages can cast ESW. Mages can't stand still and cast ESW either (not very often). I'm just hoping for some warriors to understand that it's not fair for mages to get killed in 2-4 crits even with PA sets.

[Shilian]

I agree with you, but then it's not fair to get killed by a mage with 2 esw (that he can cast from far away without yoiu even touching him).

Using a lvl 70 ma set , I got a 1200 damage from ESW, thats just insane.

[Enter]

most of the warr that does massive dmg is those warr that have 600str? personally im not sure what can a pure warrior do, never been one before cos what i think is that if i became a pure warr .. my dying chances are higher since i dont have amp .
oh well , i usually die under 2 esw or 2 mass blizz .... and i dont got a chance to hit those mages since most of them use shield after casting spell .
so im feeling lost ..

my 2 cents no offence to anyone ^_^

[testt]

I voted yes hoping someone notice that there will not be any mages around. Seriously if this was a normal server warriors should be doing max 470 dmg per crit supposing that mage dmg is the same (dirblizz: ~4*80=320 dmg vs wars: max ~100 dmg per crit => 3.2:1 == 1500:470).